Motorcycle Build-Off: Orange County Choppers vs Paul Junior Designs vs Jesse James West Coast Choppers

Television gives us a new motorcycle build-off to end 2011:

Who?      Orange County Choppers (OCC) with Paul Teutul Senior, Paul Junior Designs (PJD) with Paul Teutul Junior and West Coast Choppers with Jesse James.

When?    Monday and Tuesday, December 5th & 6th  9 pm both nights

Where?   Discovery Channel

December 5th the three will build their individual bikes and you can vote for your favorite.

December 6th will be a live show in Las Vegas and the winning bike will be revealed.

This event is on the Discovery Channel and the American Chopper series,  which didn’t invent motorcycle shows but certainly helped make them famous and set off the biker build-off events and shows of various stripes with the help of the King and the Mayor, Jesse James who did invent bike building television.

The Teutul’s got locked into building theme bikes, some really good-looking theme bikes for like the last twelve years.  But the show became all about Senior getting red in the face screaming at Junior.  That’s all the show really was until Senior fired Junior.  He seems to forget that he fired his own son (again) and says that Paul junior “left” or “got laid off”  or “forgot to come back to work”, but he fired Junior.

And after a year during which Paul Senior and OCC prevented Junior from being able to build a motorcycle, the Discovery Channel eventually promoted a Sr vs Jr build-off which Junior won handily and the Discovery Channel pretty much ignored.  Seems they had all their chips riding on Senior.

So now we have a three-way build-off.  Sounds interesting because PJD then builds some nice bikes and we have Jesse James….a real bike builder, in the mix.

I’m not sure what OCC is building.  They seem to spend most of their time on the show bad-mouthing Junior.  How long can you do that and what does it have to do with building quality bikes?

Jesse will bad-mouth them both, but he really is a bad boy.  Junior isn’t but doesn’t try to be.  Senior tries to be but it doesn’t fit.

My guess??  It will be PJD vs Jesse with OCC there for some color and trouble-making.

The winner?  Could go either way, but I think PJD could sneak a win here as the underdoggie.

We will be back here for the December 5th show and the December 6th unveiling in my 2nd home, Las Vegas.

I wish they would let the History Channel’s Danny ‘Count’ Koker join in on this building frenzy/fun.  That would make for a show.

Jesse James and West Coast Choppers

When it comes to bikes how can you not be a Jesse James fan?  For fabrication skills alone both Tuetuls should be scared cuz JJ will not take a back seat.  He planned from the start to fabricate every single piece of metal and frame by himself.  And that means manual machines.  No pretty-boy machinery in this shop.

Check out his photos from the build HERE   Nice bike.  I sure miss the old Monster Garage days.

A Frisco machine in all its’ glory.  Do you know the Frisco bikes?  Check out this article.  It explains how geography often determines a bike building style.  Car building too but thi is about bikes.

And definitely view the interview with Trevelen.  Besides being a bike-building genius the man know and lives his history.  Right on bbrother T.

And so it is that the old Frisco bikes became the West Coast choppers style all the way.

Paul Teutul Jr and PJD

Paulie was always much more skilled than Senior gave him credit for on the show.  I guess partly because it was a storyline in the show or partly because of Sr’s screwed up behavior.  But he learned to design and build some nice machines.  And even better ones at PJD as early as it still is.

Check his photos from the build HERE

Paul Sr and OCC

Nice show, getting old after a decade even with the split.  Lots of talented peeps here though but the “theme” focus limits their growth.  Must be hard to work at OCC.  Where else can you get the opportunity to build a lot of bikes, get on TV, make tons of money and get a rep of your own.  And it tastes so good you can’t leave even though you hate to go to work each day?

Check the OCC Build pics HERE

December 5th:

Jesse James is bringing out the big guns for tonights show

Have you been watching this all fucking day long American Chopper marathon?

I have been in and out all day, but each time I make it in the TV room the Teutul’s are still on.  That’s what more than a decade of TV shows will do.  plus how it would screw with your head.

I will watch tonight and tomorrow though, because I want to see the bikes…

Two nice bikes and one…whata-ya-call-it.  I like the OCC wuteva but it’s not a motorcycle.

So it’s between PJD and JJ.

JJ may be even a little crazier now but there were some funny ass moments.

I follow Jesse on Twitter but somehow I missed the video parody on Jr.  Too funny.

I like PJDs bike a lot.  The look is amazing  and there is only one thing I don’t care much for—the wood in the wheels.  I get it and it fits the theme.  To me it almost looks more like an old wood boat but that’s just me.

Jesse’s bike is sweet.  I would love to ride it.  And that red is amazingly deep.

Vote HERE

December 7th:

In case you missed it

the winning bike was by Paul Jr Designs (PJD).  I didn’t watch the entire show last night had some other stuff going on but I did pick the winner after seeing all three machines.  check the link above.
All three were good builds but all were so different from design perspective all the way to technical build that it is almost ahmeful to pick one over the other.
I have to hand it to the OCC crew for coming up with something like their Track machine.  Amazing, didn’t think they had this in them.
And it is great to see the Mayor Jesse James building motorcycles again.  This is where he belongs and he built one sweet machine.  Plus he has grown up enough he admitted his ego got in the way a bit.  If he had realized this a bit earlier he might have won.
And nice job Paul Jr and the crew for another Discovery Channel Build-off win.
Now maybe we can stop these contrived Sr vs Jr bullshit buildoffs.  If Sr can’t admit what his son can do (win?) then take him off television.  His shit got old 4 years ago.
Good job to the metal boys and engine tuners on each team!!!

Here is an article from Inside TV.  Big TV ratings for the show especially last night (Part 2) so we can probably expect more of these contrivances.  It’s the 2nd highest rated episode EVER in the 10+ year history of the show.  So…

The article has some good full-size photos for you.

More Motorcycle Blogs & Sites

You know I love choppers (actually most bikes) and hot rods, well here are a few more blogs & websites for you to check out.

The World Of Motorcycles

Vintage motorcycles, sport & racing motorcycles and custom motorcycles.  In addition to a ton of photos of great bikes, they have good writing.  Check out the history of Harley-Davidson .  It’s a great & detailed article and includes links to Harley racing sites and restoration sites.  Nice!

“The site also contains reference links to vintage British, Italian, and American parts suppliers, restorers, vintage motorcycle collectors, owner’s clubs, after-market manufacturers, vintage bike shows, auctions, reference books, and historical motorcycle websites.”

This is a 1913 Excelsior motorcycle from The World Of Motorcycles.

Darwin Motorcycles

Darwin partners with some world-class companies to build their Brass Balls Bobbers & Choppers.  You can find them on Twitter @brassballcycles.

This is the Digger Black Elite.
Brass Balls Digger Black Elite

Bike EXIF

Bike EXIF describes their site:  “This site offers a dose of the coolest motorcycles, several days a week. That  means custom motorcycles, classic motorcycles, cafe racers, racing motorcycles  and style icons. I’m passionate about design, photography and classic  motorcycles, and Bike EXIF is a way to combine all three—and connect with other  people who share the same interests.”

I really like this site and I follow them on Twitter @BikeEXIF.  They offer daily updates by e-mail (sign up on their site) and they have a Facbook page.  Very connected!  And they love Moto-Guzzi‘s.  Check this one out.

Art In Motion

These folks build custom bikes & trikes and have a full-service shop in Florida.

This is their 1st Place 3 Wheeler from a Rat’s Hole event in 2008.

Asphalt & Rubber

A & R was founded in 2008 and has quickly become a leading voice covering news of the motorcycle industry including the business end of designing and building motorcycles.  They are becoming deeply involved in the budding electric motorcycle industry.  It is predicted that within 20 years the majority of bikes being built will be electric.  What a shocking change that will be.

Interested in the future of electric motorcycles?  One place to check out is Brammo   They are on Twitter @BrammoSays and @BrammoForum  I’m a motor head but they have some great looking bikes with surprisingly good specs.

I’m not a huge MotoGP fan but these Ducati’s are sweet.

V-Force Customs

Do you watch American Chopper on the Discovery Channel  You know these guys from Orange County Choppers.  Vinnie and Cody went with Paul Jr after the family meltdown and build bikes at Paul Jr Designs.

Vinnie always made me laugh when he was working at OCC and he is a master technician and mechanic.  He was instrumental, along with Rick Petko, in building those great custom theme bikes.  Cody joined OCC at like the age of 16 and they treated him like the youngest son including giving him a nice bike that Cody & Paul  Senior designed and built (NoteI was wrong.  Cody is now suing OCC & Paul Sr for a number of reasons including the fact that he never was physically given the bike he built.  Sr “gave” the kid the bike on the TV show but apprently took it back or changed his mind or just never followed thru???  Hard to tell with Sr, but Cody didn’t get the bike so he is now suing as of February 2012) plus sending him to motorcycle mechanics school and taking him down to Daytona for Bike Week when he was still a teen.  What a ride for a kid.

Vinnie and Cody also build bikes under their own brand, V-Force Customs.  You often see Vinnie now wearing V-Force hats on the American Chopper show.

This is their V-Force Deuce.  Sweet bike.

The American Chopper Orange County Chopper Mercedes-Daimler AMG Motorcycle

Paul Teutul Sr. of Orange County Choppers and ...

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I like the American Chopper series about Orange County Chopper (OCC), now on the Discovery Channel.  I like  the shows variants like Sr vs Jr etc too.  So now it is OCC & PJD.  Any other letters to throw in there??  Oh.  Right.  RPD.  Rick Petko Designs.  That was a nice touch they put on Rick’s bike.

I’m not a fan of Paul Teutel Sr’s, he is an ass and the inter-family squabbling got old for me a long time ago.  But I still watch and enjoy the Orange County Chopper bikes even without Paulie Jr.

Because at least Sr has Rick Petko.  Dude’s a bike building genius.

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September 19th Intervention & update:

So now it is looking like Rick Petko is tired of Sr’s fucking around with him and will quit/move over to PJD.  We will see what happens tonight because they kept teasing us last week but it did not happen.  Now is tease #2.  I used to know a girl like that.  Used to.

Anyway, OCC will really suffer if Rick leaves don’t you think?

Seems like just a quiet, competent guy that just gets the job one and doesn’t give you any trouble.  Rick could work for me any day.  And he would be happier at PJD.

Course it is always hard to tell how real these “reality” things are.  Is it off the cuff or is it scripted?

Your “sneak peek” tease is at this link.

OK, back to the original post…..

September 20th:

So from last nights show it looks like Rick was not actually “quitting”, but talked about working with Jr for a couple of weeks.

Course, if he proposes that to Sr he may find his ass on the street.

I didn’t chance to watch the whole show, so I’m not sure what actually happened…..

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Sr is like many type A guys and ex-addicts.  Driven and passionate but still treats their family the way they did when they were drinking and using.  Like shit.  And so we see him fighting with all of his sons.  Mostly the show shows the SR vs Jr crap, but the middle son that runs the steel business and Sr stopped talking for like three years.  Even when the grandchildren were born, Sr would not talk to, go visit or even talk about them.

That’s some fucking screwy thinking boy.  Screwy indeed.

But the family has opportunities that they might never have had without Sr.  His personal drive, that screws up his relationships, gives him the ability to succeed in almost every business he has dipped his toe into.  Without Sr where would his boys be??

I thought that I had seen all the shows by now, but today I saw the Mercedes Daimler AMG build.

What a beautiful bike, and then at the simple unveiling the Daimler folks brought out a wooden cycle they designed and built in 1885!  Amazing.  Senior drove it and got to go a top speed 7 MPH.

The Orange County Chopper Mercedes-Daimler AMG Bike

Did you know Daimler invented and built the first motorcycle?  For some reason I was thinking it was a different company, but the Mercedes bike makes sense.  This article calls their bike the first “true” motorcycle.  I guess the ones that came before this 1885 bike were more like motorized bicycles.

Mercedes should build bikes now, especially AMG choppers.  Sweet.

Television shows I like

As you can tell from my usual header, I like hot rods, choppers, guns, poker and crap like that.  Guy stuff.  Well, add chicks to that list cuz I like them lots.

But when it comes to TV I am all guy, so add sports to the list.  Shows that I do watch (and why) are:

American Chopper & offsprings

I have been watching this for a few years now and still like it in all various forms, even the Bike Buildoff shows on Discovery Channel.  People say it’s about the people, but if I was a bike I would say it’s about the bikes (stoopid)

Sons of Guns

Let’s see:

  • design and build wicked guns…..check
  • shoot the damn guns…..check
  • blow lots of crap up…..check
  • do it all again…..oh yeh, check and mate

NOTE:  I had to edit this post because I find I am not enjoying this season (2012) as much as I did the first year.  Why?

  1. Vince is gone and he was their best gunsmith plus he was good on the show.  Funny and other peeps seemed to respect him.
  2. the marriage between Chris and the onl chick on the show.  Why marry her off?  Plus Chri has alway been a knucklehead.  I know I kept hearing Will says he had ‘potential’ but I always wanted to see him get fired.
  3. they got married in Vegass?  (I guess) Just not what I expected but I guess trailer-iti can get to you
  4. all just IMHO

I wantch it some but lat year it was GREAT, now…but it’s hella better than that American Guns shit.

Now I watch Swamp People.  Hell Yeah!!

Swamp People

Peeps in the swamp.  Well, and gators

Top Gear

Cars, racing and crashes.  Let’s see…..how come I like this?

Football and basketball

Other team sports just bore the crap outta me

Sr vs Jr—Vote & Bid: The Cadillac CTS motorcycles and The Final Numbers

Vote!!  Sr or Jr?

and then bid to win the bike and help the charity and help Cure Duchenne.

UPDATE:  The voting and the auction has ended.

Who won??

Aside from Daddy’s constant bad mouthing of his son which confuses the hell out of me…….

Both were nice bikes just one of them was way way nicer.

Update late August:

But why would a father be so insane as to not only bad mouth his own son on national television, but to misrepresent what he says and does.  Such as, he fired Paul Jr.  Everyone heard him and we saw it on TV and in reruns.  Then Paul Sr starts saying ON TV that Jr quit.  WTF dude??  And saying that Paul Jr will build the Cadillac bike “out of his ass”.  Well if the winning bike was built out of Jr’s ass, where was OCC‘s bike built.  Someone on Facebook posted that the vote was 95% Jr to 5% Sr, but last I saw it was like 2-1.

Enough of that, because I kind of like Sr although he tires me greatly.  That bi-polar shit gets old fast.  I’m just glad he is not my father.  But Paul Sr got pwned by Paul Jr and this guy says Discovery Channel shut the vote down to save embarrassment of their ‘star’ on the American Chopper series.  he says the vote was 96% Paul Jr when they shut the voting down and I do know the Discovery Channel has NEVER issued the results of the voting.   I dunno…

My vote?  Paul Jr, easy choice, and thx @whereispauljr.  I own a Cadillac CTS and PJD’s bike captures it perfectlySr’s bike is nice, but Jr kicked his ass.

I am lousy at hints…..

Update September 19th:

Tonight on American Chopper they finally let the cat out of the bag on the Cadillac bike builds.

It seems like we were bidding on which bike we thought should win at least a year ago.

Tonight Mikey brought his Apple laptop into PJD, brought up the Discovery Channel website and announced the winner of the public vote on which Caddillac bike won…..Sr or Jr (??)

Without any drama, the PJD (Jr’s) bike was the winner.

The vote was something like 244,000 to 9,000.

No, I’m serious.  No joke.  That was the final vote rounded down a bit.

So now I know why Discovery took the whole thing off their site and OCC (Sr) hasn’t said a word about it for months.

It is really kind of humiliating.  I mean, Jr’s bike was the best but that kind of ass whooping really has more to do with how the public is viewing Sr and his behavior toward Jr and Mikey especially the whole firing shit.

Today the Discovery Channel website put the vote & bid page backup including their final vote results, a little higher  than the numbers Mikey shared on the show.

Anyway, congratulations @whereispauljr & PJD folks, and nice build OCC staff.  It was a nice bike.  They were both nice bikes and I am glad to see that a good sum of money was raised for Cure Duchenne

Update September 23rd:

You can enter to win a CTS-V here.

Avenger at OCC

man…..the Orange County Choppers building sure makes a nice background for pics, especially this Avenger and some of our soldiers.

Thx to @OCChoppers and our military.

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